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4th And Forever is an American Football Podcast featuring Darren Butter and Stuart Bothwell - two Scotsmen who live in New Zealand and have an unhealthy obsession with American Football. Contact the lads on 4thAndForeverFootball@gmail.com or search for 4th And Forever Podcast on Facebook.
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Sep 3, 2025
Sep 3, 2025
1hr 19 min
In order to contain our excitement, let's keep this short:
Football. Is. Back.
So. Are. We.
Sucks. To. Be. You.
Key Games:
Bucs @ Falcons
Broncos @ Titans
(a lil Giants @ Commanders)
Lions @ Packers
Ravens @ Bills
(a lil Miami Dolphins peppered in there too)
Aug 27, 2025
Aug 27, 2025
1hr 32 min
In the BIGGEST news of today, Stuart and Darren got together in an online studio again for the first time since... now when was it...? I dunno, something happened back in Feb.
Who are some of the players that the guys are excited to see some more of in the 25-26 season?
Also:
- WEDDINGS
- Cowboy (Contract) Builders
- QB Carousel
- ZERO comparisons to Jags ownership and Fulham FC ownership *ahem!*
Jan 24, 2025
Jan 24, 2025
1hr 10 min
After an excellent and very varied slate of Divisional games, we now turn to the final four with two incredibly juicy match-ups full of intrigue, narratives and...
... oh I just got flagged for not having mentioned the Chiefs yet.
15 yard penalty on the Bills.
Automatic 1st down...
Commanders @ Eagles
Bills @ Chiefs
Jan 15, 2025
Jan 15, 2025
1hr 19 min
Contrary to popular belief, Darren has not perished! He hath returned with insight for the upcoming Divisional Round games and the occassional look over the shoulder to what came before in the Wildcard Round.
News:
- Pats fire former Pro Bowl linebacker and hire former Pro Bowl linebacker
- Cowboys move on from Mike McCarthy just in time for there to be noone left to replace him
- Browns need a QB... duh
Games:
Texans @ Chiefs
Commanders @ Lions
Rams @ Eagles
Ravens @ Bills
Jan 11, 2025
Jan 11, 2025
33 min
After taking some time out to recover, watch Hamilton vs Partick Thistle then being distracted by an episode of Still Game followed by a Best of Only An Excuse... the boy has only gone and pulled the NFC Super Wild Card Preview out of his behind!
Jan 11, 2025
Jan 11, 2025
35 min
IT'S SOMETHING!
Stuart returns to bash out the AFC Super Wild Card Round match-ups before a throat issue knocks him out of action. Will he return for the NFC? Who knows? Do you care? Maybe? Are repeated questions a cheap writing device? Almost certainly yes.
Nov 13, 2024
Nov 13, 2024
1hr 32 min
Week 10 gave us a heap more one score games, and a number of shocks. But most of all... it gave us... DA RIZZ!
And yes, that IS the real shape of his head. Can't wait to do a full feature on him if he keeps going like this.
Nov 6, 2024
Nov 6, 2024
1hr 41 min
The 5th of November 2024 is no doubt an incredibly important day.
Millions across America and BILLIONS across the world have their eyes transfixed on the U-S of A.
The time for conjecture is behind us. Now is the time for Americans to stand up...
... and tell us what they think about Za'Darius Smith going to Detroit.
THIS IS YOUR POLITICS FREE ZONE, FOLKS!
Come on in to the 4th and Forever Podcast!
Oct 30, 2024
Oct 30, 2024
1hr 35 min
Firstly: New podcast audio recording software is a-go! Let us know what you think!
Week 8 threw up a slew of shock results, wacky finishes and story lines that will keep us satisfied until... well... week 9!
Oct 23, 2024
Oct 23, 2024
1hr 30 min
If you thought Darren's audio problems couldn't get any worse then last week, then you were SORELY mistaken!
Now that I've hooked you in with a reason to test your ability to listen to someone speak into a microphone submerged in syrup between two Tempur mattresses (not a sponsor... yet), week 7 was an interesting one, wasn't it?!
Key games:
Detroit @ Minnesota
Kansas City @ San Francisco