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4th And Forever is an American Football Podcast featuring Darren Butter and Stuart Bothwell - two Scotsmen who live in New Zealand and have an unhealthy obsession with American Football. Contact the lads on 4thAndForeverFootball@gmail.com or search for 4th And Forever Podcast on Facebook.
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Friday Jan 24, 2025
Ep 145 - 2024-25 Championship Weekend Preview
Friday Jan 24, 2025
Friday Jan 24, 2025
After an excellent and very varied slate of Divisional games, we now turn to the final four with two incredibly juicy match-ups full of intrigue, narratives and...
... oh I just got flagged for not having mentioned the Chiefs yet.
15 yard penalty on the Bills.
Automatic 1st down...
Commanders @ Eagles
Bills @ Chiefs

Wednesday Jan 15, 2025
Ep 144 - 2024-25 Divisional Round Preview (DARREN IS BACK!)
Wednesday Jan 15, 2025
Wednesday Jan 15, 2025
Contrary to popular belief, Darren has not perished! He hath returned with insight for the upcoming Divisional Round games and the occassional look over the shoulder to what came before in the Wildcard Round.
News:
- Pats fire former Pro Bowl linebacker and hire former Pro Bowl linebacker
- Cowboys move on from Mike McCarthy just in time for there to be noone left to replace him
- Browns need a QB... duh
Games:
Texans @ Chiefs
Commanders @ Lions
Rams @ Eagles
Ravens @ Bills

Saturday Jan 11, 2025
Ep 143 -2024 SUPER Wildcard Round NFC Solo
Saturday Jan 11, 2025
Saturday Jan 11, 2025
After taking some time out to recover, watch Hamilton vs Partick Thistle then being distracted by an episode of Still Game followed by a Best of Only An Excuse... the boy has only gone and pulled the NFC Super Wild Card Preview out of his behind!

Saturday Jan 11, 2025
Ep 142 - 2024 SUPER Wildcard Round AFC Solo
Saturday Jan 11, 2025
Saturday Jan 11, 2025
IT'S SOMETHING!
Stuart returns to bash out the AFC Super Wild Card Round match-ups before a throat issue knocks him out of action. Will he return for the NFC? Who knows? Do you care? Maybe? Are repeated questions a cheap writing device? Almost certainly yes.

Wednesday Nov 13, 2024
Ep 141 - 2024 Week 10 (inc. DA RIZZLER)
Wednesday Nov 13, 2024
Wednesday Nov 13, 2024
Week 10 gave us a heap more one score games, and a number of shocks. But most of all... it gave us... DA RIZZ!
And yes, that IS the real shape of his head. Can't wait to do a full feature on him if he keeps going like this.

Wednesday Nov 06, 2024
Ep 140 - 2024 Week 9 + Trade Deadline
Wednesday Nov 06, 2024
Wednesday Nov 06, 2024
The 5th of November 2024 is no doubt an incredibly important day.
Millions across America and BILLIONS across the world have their eyes transfixed on the U-S of A.
The time for conjecture is behind us. Now is the time for Americans to stand up...
... and tell us what they think about Za'Darius Smith going to Detroit.
THIS IS YOUR POLITICS FREE ZONE, FOLKS!
Come on in to the 4th and Forever Podcast!

Wednesday Oct 30, 2024
Ep 139 - 2024 Week 8 - HAIL MARY!
Wednesday Oct 30, 2024
Wednesday Oct 30, 2024
Firstly: New podcast audio recording software is a-go! Let us know what you think!
Week 8 threw up a slew of shock results, wacky finishes and story lines that will keep us satisfied until... well... week 9!

Wednesday Oct 23, 2024
Ep 138 - 2024 Week 7-8 (Return Of The Muffles)
Wednesday Oct 23, 2024
Wednesday Oct 23, 2024
If you thought Darren's audio problems couldn't get any worse then last week, then you were SORELY mistaken!
Now that I've hooked you in with a reason to test your ability to listen to someone speak into a microphone submerged in syrup between two Tempur mattresses (not a sponsor... yet), week 7 was an interesting one, wasn't it?!
Key games:
Detroit @ Minnesota
Kansas City @ San Francisco

Wednesday Oct 16, 2024
Ep 137 - 2024 Week 6-7 + Adams The Jet
Wednesday Oct 16, 2024
Wednesday Oct 16, 2024
"Hey everybody! Darren's back! :D"
...*inaudible grumbling*...
He may have forgotten how to appropriately record audio for a podcast, but he hasn't forgotten how to bring the heat when it comes to the NFL chat.
Playing with a new recap formula, you end up hearing a lot of Stuart in this one. Man he loves himself, eh?
Anyway, DAVANTE ADAMS WAS TRADED TO THE JETS!

Wednesday Oct 09, 2024
Ep 136 - 2024 Week 5-6 + So Long Saleh
Wednesday Oct 09, 2024
Wednesday Oct 09, 2024
SO LONG SALEH!
With a bomb dropped in the hours leading up to recording, Stuart brought in the elder statesman - Steve Bothwell - once again to break down the crazy goings on in New Jersey!